Thursday 19 May 2011

EARLY CHRISTIAN MYSTICS AND MUSLIMS - MARK GLENN'S UGLY TRYTH

EARLY CHRISTIAN MYSTICS AND MUSLIMS

Posted: May 8, 2011 by crescentandcross in Uncategorized

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Nimat Allah Al Hardini from Hardin (Lebanon)
By Basheer Soormally, Reader of The Ugly Truth

I HAD 101 titles in mind for the above; but don’t ask yourself or me why I chose this one!  Two of the imagined titles were: “Early Christian Mysticism” and “From Messiah Christ to Clown Obama”.  I have seen unfolding in front of my very eyes, utterly powerless, the live enacting of endless myths, lies, deceptions, mass murder and global plunder where the perverted money changers and their armies of assassins have created havoc on GOD’s earth, whether acting on behalf of the Roman Catholic Church, the Roman Empire, the promoters of the so-called Enlightenment, the European Colonial Empire or its modern military industrial complex now engaged in a Renewed Crusade against 1.5 billion Muslims, and their religion Islam, which although being the first Christian Reformation has been refused all legitimacy by Western Christendom on the grounds of their claim to the superiority of the white European race and the inferiority of the Arabs, the white non Europeans and the non whites alike, and because of their visceral hatred for the Arabic language and for Islam.  They accepted all the other Christian “denominations” or reformed groups because they are all white European Sects although they have now sort of accepted the Black Christian denominations as well.  This white European racism has caused most Muslims to forget that Christianity is part of their religion, and they always refer only to the 1400 year-old Islam, but I don’t.  Islam started with the very first Creation.  I recently even witnessed the resurrection of the dead: Muslim Sheikh and Mujaahid Usama Bin Ladin, a well documented twenty first century miracle performed by an “American” clown-god with a Yiddish soul – Baruch Obama! 

  I expect most Christians (even some Muslims) of The Ugly Truth to feel that I am showing no respect for their religion or even insult their faith.  The truth is that I have the utmost respect for the Christian and Muslim faiths as long as they do no harm to self or to others and are truthful.  I never insult people’s faith.  Islam does not allow this.  As, for Christianity, I claim to be Christian (a name given by outsiders) and it is the perfect right of other Christians to disagree with me, but not to lie about me and the statements I make here.  I have only one religion and way of life and there is no risk ever that I will convert to any other religion and this is the religion of Truth and Justice whatever name people may give to it.  I believe only in Truth and Justice for all, and Love for all true, sincere and good people.  Mainstream Christians believe in loving the sinners and criminals, but I don’t, because my understanding of love, compassion, sin, crime and punishment is different.  People can call my religion by different names: Hinduism, Israelitism, Christianity or Islam.  I have no objection at all to be called Hindu, Israelite, Christian or Muslim as long as it does not go against Truth and Justice.  This exposé will respect the truth as far as the facts I will refer to are provable to be true.  But, I stress that it is not about religion, but only about the survival of mankind as a moral, spiritual and human creation of some invisible force beyond our limited human comprehension.

Mysticism is not about religion or faith or intellectuality, but about spirituality, and this can be of any faith, Hindu, Buddhist, Christian or Muslim.  I cannot unfortunately include Jews in my list, although I would like too, as I have seen them to be the farthest from any kind of spirituality because of their inherent perverted and criminal ways, their racism, arrogance, superiority complex and total lack of humility.  To be a mystic, we do not have to believe in any particular GOD although mystics try to experience a mystical union or a direct communion with the ultimate reality that many call GOD.  It is a personal (subjective) quest that is not necessarily founded on a particular Holy Scripture.  Subjective experience on the higher plane of spirituality is good and not in the sense the term subjective is commonly used. 

When people tend to concentrate too much on the Scriptures alone, for example, Christians and Muslims, most tend to loose contact with reality, with GOD Himself because they have turned GOD into a kind of personal property that nobody else can ever possess or even understand.  This is the case mainly with Jews.  Their God is a personal God and they are the Chosen ones of that God.  All the others, the inferior ones, are the REJECTED ones of God.  But, I am no friend of those Chosenites and I wish my Christian and Muslim Brothers and Sisters would always keep in mind that we were and should remain ONE big family, and must remain united against all the forces of evil from outside as represented by the Jews and their likes as well as from inside from our own ranks.  The enemies are countless, but the worst one is within our own selves, our own communities, and our own governments, which means that egocentrism, fanaticism, and blind patriotism and nationalism are also our enemies.  The truth is that we do not even have a consistent religion although we claim to be part of one.  The all powerful state makes us change our religion on a daily basis because of mass mind control and manipulation.  The Godless State very cleverly takes advantage of our passions and our addiction to worldly things and total indifference to truth and justice with the catastrophic result that we damaged our spirit and lost our soul, which they claim we do not have anyway, calling us rational beings with an animal body and mind and no spirit.  Our early Christian fathers knew about this pathology of the human heart and mind they called the eight passions later made up into the Seven Deadly Sins of the Roman Catholic Church.  The more the Christians were made to believe that they had sinned, the more (tax) money came into their coffers because they sold indulgences!

 I once read a book on Omar Shariff (Michael Salhoub).  He says in it how he felt the overpowering presence of GOD when he was shooting Lawrence of Arabia in the desert.  His father taught him both the Bible and the Qur’ân when he was young, and he was convinced that Christians and Muslims worshipped the same GOD contrary to what millions of Christians believe and preach.  Their rejection of the Muslims’ belief in GOD is responsible of all the hatred the Church-indoctrinated and Zionist-manipulated Christians have for Muslims and Islam.  But, when you visit the desert and the mountain monasteries you see, feel, know that there is GOD, and that He is ONE because you can experience it there more easily than in the artificial towns and houses we are living in where we tend to lose our humanity or humanness more and more and our GOD consciousness and see our character moulded by materialism and consumerism and our culture destroyed and nation enslaved by crony capitalism!  Our saintly early fathers have mostly been replaced by modern gurus, televangelist clowns and charlatans, Buddha, Hindu and Earth deity worshippers which are being promoted by the Christian New Agers and the Zionist controlled media including the UN.

My belief is founded on personal first hand knowledge and experience and not on acquired beliefs where everybody fights everybody else’s beliefs without realising that modern (Jewish made) culture has contaminated their respective belief systems.  They made Jesus Christ too human, always speaking of his “body” and occulting the spirit which is the very essence of Christianity which our early fathers saw as essentially mystical, or too much of a God.  While the Muslim Sufis are looking to join up with GOD, Christians adopted the reverse by dragging GOD down to earth to be incarnated into the human body.  They fail to realise that Hindus already believed in this kind of religion and have those avatars by the tons including incarnations into animals.  Whether modern Christians like it or not, the truth remains the truth and Western Christianity is not early Christianity and is so remote of Christ and his teachings.  Modern Christianity is a Catholic and Reformed religion without its roots, and this is the main cause of its weakness!  I am just trying to indicate some reasons why and where it went wrong by relating my personal experience (despite my fallible memory).  Christianity is profoundly mystical, but Zionism is certainly not!

At this stage, let me try and go back to that almost abandoned Catholic Church in Paris where I lived (or was it another one?).  I see myself praying in an almost empty Church.  GOD was right there, but nowhere outside those old walls.  I see a well dressed and quite dignified Black lady with a head scarf deep in her act of devotion or prayer.  I finish my act of worship (mistakenly called prayer or supplication by most of us) and look around.  Then, I walk out of the Church.  The lady comes up to me, grabs both my hands, kneels down and asks me to bless her.  I bless her and cannot help the tears gushing out of my heart.  She says she has some serious health problem and asks me to come to her house to do something for her.  I cannot remember exactly.  I have a feeling that I wrote about this somewhere, may be right here on The Ugly Truth.  It was my beard maybe.  I have never seen any of our early Christian fathers without a beard, but because of the modern Western hatred of the beard, I even read that Jesus did not have a beard and did not ever cover his head!  In a desert, 40 days with no head covering?  The West did everything they could to fabricate a Jesus to their personal taste and liking: white, tall, blond, blue eyes, Greek features, beardless, hatless, hippy long hair, speaking non Semitic languages and speaking more like a Greek philosopher rather than like a Semitic Prophet or Messenger of GOD and his man-made fictitious and artistic portraits made him lose all the mystery behind that pure Son of GOD.  May GOD bless Mel Gibson for bringing back the Aramaic speaking Jesus on to the cinema screen in The Passion of Jesus Christ!

That blessed day in Church, the settings of that spiritual or mystic encounter may not be very clear in my mind as there is always a risk of embellishment in the narrative as time goes by, but the very deep emotional experience was real and I am convinced it was not a simple coincidence for that lady to approach me.  This reminds me of the Hollywood-made Brothers Karamazov in which the Russian Orthodox Christian mystic bowed down in front of Dimitri Karamazov (with his head touching the floor as Jesus Christ and all early Christians did and as all Muslims have always done to this very day when worshipping GOD).  The Christian mystic then stood up, looked at Dimitri in the eye, clasped Dimitri’s right hand and raised it to his lips, then to his eyes and forehead.  This was my best part of the film and I do not think that any other actor can ever play that role again better than Yul Brynner because the interaction between him and the mystic was so vivid and so mystical.  I felt and lived every gesture, silence and uttered word of the moment.  It was not just a Hollywood “prostitute” playing a part for money, but a profoundly spiritual man (Dimitri) just being himself on the screen, and the actor playing the Christian Orthodox mystic was excellent.   No wonder the Roman Catholics who constitute the majority of Christendom do not accept Orthodox Christianity!  They have long since lost all the mystical aspect of their religion because of their imperialist and colonialist bloodthirsty adventures and Crusades.

The Russian mystic is teaching us all a lesson about Christian spirituality.  This is how we bless anything human or even an animal.  I did not learn this from books although I may have seen it practiced by humble and many religious Muslims.  Watch the sequence in the film and see for yourselves.  You must live that strongly spiritual moment where the Divine manifested Himself in two pure human souls.  I devised a way to control my inner “self” or what some call the animal instinct in us by teaching my two grand children (girls) to hold up their right hand to me whenever they see me getting angry, on the verge of getting angry or when they are scared of being punished after having done something they feel is wrong or that has been forbidden to them.  As soon as I see any one of them stretching their little angelic hand up to me, it would immediately have an extraordinary effect on me.  I would freeze. All my bestial instincts would be immediately and completely neutralised.  I would mechanically just extend my right hand, take the offering hand and kiss it, then raise it to each of my eye in turn with my soul turned to GOD.  My little angel is thus saved from being punished when I get angry.  Sometimes they would do it without me having even noticed that they have done something wrong.  

Prostration is humility and a show of deep spiritual love and devotion to the other or to GOD.  In my experience, the kneeling custom adopted by Western Christians is just half way to full spiritual communion with GOD, although I have seen Christian priests prostrating with their head down on the floor (or the entire body flat on the floor) in the Vatican and in monasteries during their acts of devotion.  In one of the Gospels, we see the host rushing to remove the guest’s sandals and wash his feet, an Arab and Middle Eastern custom, but Western imposed modern culture and even laws (against hijaab, head scarf, niqaab, etc.) are destroying all our religious Traditions.       

When a Western Christian walks into a Lebanese, Syrian, Arab, Coptic, Russian or Slav Church, everything is (seems) weird and alien to him or her without realising that those Churches are the closest to early Christianity and to Christ.  I walked into many Protestant (Reformed) Churches and Kingdom Halls, but I never saw or felt GOD there or anywhere near and including in the Baptist Church were I live!  The Catholic Church, despite all its idols (or maybe because of them), had (some still have) more of GOD’s presence.  I could feel it especially when it is empty.  The vast and often gloomy and cold vast space inside definitely contribute to its air of mystery.  Despite the fact that Islam forbids statues, I believe I am unique among Muslims to have experienced closeness to GOD by merely putting my hands on one of them, whether a Christian or Hindu idol.  The rosary and the Holy Qur’ân have in a way replaced the idols in Islam because many (most) humans need that sense of touch while worshipping the Almighty.  (I know some will say it is outrageous, but I said this is my personal experience.)  What they fail to realise is that the very soul of all Western churches, cathedrals and basilica come from the very caves of Syria, Arabia, Palestine and Lebanon where the first Christian congregations (ecclesia) met and where Muhammad obtained his Revelations (or inspiration).  Rome was not interested in the episode when Paul stayed in Arabia.  Why?

 But, what Rome and the West destroyed of Christian mysticism, Holy Russia preserved it.  However, in the last century, whatever the Slavic people inherited from Early Christianity was destroyed for ever by the contact with the materialist West and their Jewish hordes.  All that has remained today is the souvenir of the horrible ethnic cleansing wars where, for example, Communist Serbs, many of which claimed to be Orthodox Christians, with the help of the now Godless West, mass raped Bosnians as well as Serbs because they were Muslims or even Christians and others who were allied with Muslims with more rapists and assassins provided by the mercenary Chetniks trained in Russia. Jack Straw spoke of the Serbian “factories of rape” even in Kosovo!  Today we have US and other Western recruited professional killer, torturer and rapist mercenaries (bounty killers) called Blackwater-Xe “contractors” used in all legality in their renewed Crusade against Muslims.   As it is quite clear, these monsters cannot be called Christians by any stretch of the imagination although this is how most Muslims will sadly perceive them to be, as the invaders are also trying to forcibly convert the Muslim victims and survivors of their deadly attacks to Christianity.  But, Muslims can never be converted to Christianity, but only to apostasy and atheism, yes, whereas any Christian can embrace (not convert to) Islam and stay a Christian (of Christ) as Christianity is part of Islam.

My personal deep love for Jesus Christ does not come from the modern Zionist controlled Churches, but from the ancient Lebanese, Syrian, Egyptian, desert and mountain monasteries where our early Christian Fathers were real Mystics with both a pure heart and a soul and were real HOLY men and martyrs, real SONS OF GOD like Jesus Christ, as compared to the vain beardless Western Church leaders and Popes of today.  As soon as they ‘found out’ (or Jews told them!) that shaving does not diminish masculine virility, they rejoiced and soon homosexuality became rampant, Christ suddenly lost his beard, the Popes and Clergy lost all spiritual links with Early Christianity and Christ, and they got rid of the mystery Latin provided in their liturgy. 

But, Muslims kept the beard and Arabic and all the mystery (and “magic”!) is still intact despite all the attempts of the West to destroy it.  As soon as the Muslims listens to the Holy Qur’ân of timeless wisdom beautifully recited in Arabic (without any accompanying music) they immediately travel back to the Source of the Divine, to their roots and leave this material world for some time.  This is the reason the Western military superpowers, despite all their deadly weaponry, fear the Muslims and their Qur’ân so much.  Yet, they are convinced they have enough fire power to blow them up all, the entire 1.5 billion people and they do have such a diabolical Freemasonic plan, anyway, not only to exterminate Muslims, but more than 90% of mankind, Christians included. Shall we all, Christians and Muslims wait and squabble continuously among ourselves about the tenets of our religion while the Jews are laughing at us, rejoicing in our face, perverting our culture and religion and murdering us at will?  For the Jews, it is “PURIM EVERYDAY” as says Brother Mark Glenn!

BAFS
Friday 6th of May 2011
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  1. MJ says:
    Needless to say I am not upon what you are upon.
    The sunnah (The science of the record of what the prophet did or said) is enough for us. We do not need to stretch our experiences beyond those of the prophet’s. Fasting, praying, charity among the other ways proscribed by Allah according to the dictates of what is ACCEPTABLE to God is how we do things.
    We are Submitters/Subjects to His will this has come to us from His last revelation(revealed knowledge) and sunnah the prophetic way. Not our own whims and desires.
    We worship him according to His will and desires.
    Not our own whims and desires.
    Let me repeat, we worship Him according to His will and desires.
    As such we do not pass beyond this:
    Bafs says:
    “Despite the fact that Islam forbids statues, I believe I am unique among Muslims to have experienced closeness to GOD by merely putting my hands on one of them, whether a Christian or Hindu idol.”(MJ says: you are upon what they are upon)
    Bafs says: “The rosary and the Holy Qur’ân have in a way replaced the idols in Islam because many (most) humans need that sense of touch while worshipping the Almighty. (I know some will say it is outrageous, but I said this is my personal experience.)”
    MJ says:
    << this part of touching and holding the rosaries and Qur'an for the sake of holding and touching is wrong (it is not a talisman) they should be contemplating the Quran and they should be praising/thanking God as the angels do.
    If you spend more time contemplating the Qur'an you know that it is enough of a connection with Allah. It is along with other acts of worship more than enough of an experience.

  2. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:

    THE PASSION OF JOAN OF ARC
    La Passion de Jeanne d’Arc
    “… j’ai renié Dieu …. Pour sauver ma vie. »
    I denied God to save my life.
    « Mais, Jeanne, devant le people vous avez reconnu que vous étiez inspirée du diable.”
    But, Joan, in the eyes of the people you have admitted.”
    « Vous croyez donc toujours que vous êtes l’élue du Seigneur?”
    You still believe that you are the elect one of the Lord?
    “Cette réponse équivaut à la mort.”
    That answer deserves the death penalty.
    “Je n’ai avoué que par crainte du feu.”
    I confessed only because of fear of the fire.
    “As-tu autre chose à nous dire?”
    Do you have anything else to tell us?
    “Nous sommes venus pour te preparer à la mort.”
    We have come to prepare you to meet death.
    “Est-ce maintenant … déjà?
    Is it time … already?
    “Quelle mort?”
    What death?
    “Sur le bûcher.”
    To be burnt alive on the stake.
    “Je vais chercher le Viatique.”
    I am going to fetch the viaticum.
    “Dis-moi, comment peux-tu toujours croire que tu es envoyée par Dieu?”
    Tell me, how can you still believe that you are sent by God ?
    “Ses voies ne sont pas nos voies.”
    His paths are not our paths.
    “Oui, je suis son enfant.”
    Yes, I am His child.
    Et ta grande victoire?”
    And the grand victory?
    « … mon martyre ! »
    My martyrdom !
    « … et ta délivrance ? »
    And your salvation ?
    « … la mort ! »
    DEATH !
    BAFS
  3. Vickie Jacobs says:
    When people tend to concentrate to much on scripture alone most tend to loose contact with reality, with God himself. They have turned God into some kind of personal property that nobody can ever possess or understand.
    Very true statement. Most look at the bible as sacred in the book it self and never realize that it was written by men and no man is perfect. These are just tools to be used to bring us to the Father. The right tool will always build the best that one is trying to build in their lives…whether that tool is the bible or not.
    That is what every person seeks for their lives and what will make us better for ourselves and for others.
    Was inspired by what you said.
  4. MJ says:
    How can anyone not have contact with God when they are drinking from the spring of His words? This is what scripture is, it is His words.
    All good acts are also a means of seeking God consciousness and closeness. We may remove a thorn from the road and smile at our neighbor/friends or family. Hide our secret actions such as supererogatory fasting, charity or prayer seeking His Pleasure alone.
    Do you know that Prophet Daud/David peace Be upon Him used to fast every other day? Those who can, can emulate this. We can emulate the asceticism of Prophet Isa and His disdain for the widespread materialism of the age among other good actions. The reliance of Job/Ayyub and his love and trust in God. His constant supplication till the angels knew His voice from above seven heavens.
    Fortunately we have enough from revealed knowledge and the good actions of the Prophets that we can use in seeking closeness to God.
    How can anyone not have contact with the creator when he/she stays away from the acts that he hates and performs the acts that He loves,with persistence and patience. In search of His Pleasure.
    How can we not have contact with the Creator when we eschew excessive comfort and compromise when these are means wherein our soul may find ease.
    Surely the Creator is sufficient as a witness for us.

  5. Mukhtar Khan says:
    Very impressive piece! Well written brother Basheer. It’s for no lack of wisdom that the Quran says about the Christians in Sura 5:82: “And you will find the nearest of them in affection to those who believe (to be) those who say: ‘We are Christians. That is because there are among them priests and monks, and because they are not proud”. That clearly means that Muslims and Christians have some common spiritual tendencies, among them their inclination towards mysticism and their lack of worldly desires as opposed to Jewish traditions which gives importance to worldly affairs such as having strong financial, political and social affiliations, not necessarily for good reasons but mainly for the purpose of abuse and subjugation of others.
    But I have to say with a heavy heart that the last 2 hundred years of relentless attacks by Western secular forces have left Christianity badly bruised, beyond recognition. Recovery and a comeback is beyond question. They have surrendered their traditions to the onslaught of secularism and have not even tried to put a good fight. Concessions after concessions, defeats after defeats, apologies after apologies, scandals after scandals, reformations after reformations. Political correctness has left Christianity devoid of any originality and essence. Just costumes and rituals. No forceful theology and a prescribed way of life. There are some exceptions, like the Greek Orthodox tradition, but it has to be seen if they are able to take this onslaught.
    The American Christian scene has nothing profound to offer to a seeking soul. The corporatization of Christianity in general and Protestantism in particular has meant that the American Christian scene is devoid of any spiritual link to their traditions and spiritual fathers. People get to teach and preach based on their online degrees???!!! Where is the passing of knowledge from masters to students through traditional chains and methodology?? This is something Islam has tried very hard to preserve, and it has become increasing harder since a Protestant equivalent called the Wahhabis are trying to get rid of these traditions and heritage and turn Islam into a lifeless shell for the sake of “getting rid of human agencies” in religious texts in order to preserve its purity.
    Maybe a hundred years ago I would have criticized you brother Basheer for not adhering strictly to a tradition(as I am still not sure if you are a Muslim or not) and allowing too much personal opinion in Divine matters- that is once its Divinity is established- but in these times a person of your belief is coolness to my eyes and a company more worthy than most religious people, because you seem to understand that external piety without internal love and mercy is like a house without inhabitants, not worth living in.
    “From God we come and to God we shall return”
  6. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:
    MJ says:
    May 8, 2011 at 5:48 pm
    “The sunnah (The science of the record of what the prophet did or said) is enough for us. We do not need to stretch our experiences beyond those of the prophet’s.”
    This is where you go wrong. Decades ago, I heard the same rhetoric from the very mouth of a Catholic on French television. He was boldly stating:
    “Once you have read the Bible, we do not have to read any further or anything else.”
    I would call this blind faith. You are doing the same.
    I think I told you, love, that I am not preaching here and do not appreciate when I am being preached to!
    I respect your faith, but I did warn that I was sharing my personal experience, and if you did not have the same experience, it is not charitable of you to deny mine and try to explain it out by the tenets of your faith.
    I have addressed many issues in the essay pertinent to both Christians and Muslims, yet you did not find s single one appealing to your intellect.
    So, I will not comment on your sermon. You do not seem to have clue (like most believers) as to what is really meant by an act of “worship” (‘ibâda).
    I speak of experience; you speak of “whims and desires”. Before you preach to others, please, you should learn the skills first and acquire full knowledge of the subject matter.
    Bafs says:
    “Despite the fact that Islam forbids statues, I believe I am unique among Muslims to have experienced closeness to GOD by merely putting my hands on one of them, whether a Christian or Hindu idol.”(MJ says: you are upon what they are upon)
    You really do not have a clue what I am writing about! Please, DO NOT ADD TO WHAT I WRITE and then comment on your own misinterpretation and misunderstanding!
    Have you ever healed anybody in your life by just applying your hand on that person?
    You do not seem to realise that much of Islam is already contained in past Scriptures and way of life of past believers. I did anticipate this as I said in the above text:
    “This white European racism has caused most Muslims to forget that Christianity is part of their religion, and (because) they (the Muslims) always refer to only the 1400 year-old Islam, but I don’t.”
    You can spend your life “contemplating” the Qur’ân, I do not have to because I spend my life LIVING the Qur’ân and do not have much time contemplating! I can see the Signs of GOD by the thousands everyday and everywhere I turn my gaze and I am always amazed.
    I also researched the Ancient Sumerians, the Egyptian Mysteries, the Scriptures of the Bani Isra’il, those of the Nazareans (Christians), the arguments of the Atheists, the Agnostics, the polytheists, the enemies of GOD and of Believers, in order to learn MORE about Islam and the mistakes of Muslims, and to STRENGTHEN my faith and conviction that Islam will always stand the test of time – even if there is NO GOD!
    This is how I also learned that the “Hebrews” that we know were not a monotheistic people, but a henotheistic people – choosing one God from a series of gods. I never heard that term before.
    Thank you for your comment.
    BAFS
  7. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:
    Vickie Jacobs says:
    May 8, 2011 at 7:35 pm
    “Was inspired by what you said.”
    I cherished that hope. May GOD reward you!
    Love
    Basheer
  8. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:
    MJ says:
    May 8, 2011 at 9:33 pm
    “How can anyone not have contact with God when they are drinking from the spring of His words? This is what scripture is, it is His words.”
    Love
    I really do not know what to say. I am trying hard to write about spirituality and my personal experience and you keep ramming with the tenets of yoour faith.
    Regards
    BAFS
  9. MJ says:
    The difference between us Bafs is that you are calling to yourself and your experiences and I am conveying the message which is the work of the prophets and all those who believe in the message. Ultimately the results are with God, we are just to convey.
    Without adding to it or subtracting the knowledge that is backed up by the Quran.
    There is widespread defamation against Islam and the hijacking of its message by the orientalists and other disinfo agents whose books are found in all of the major bookstores. The media promotes Islamic mysticism or Sufism which is full of innovations in theology and other aspects of disbelief.
    Then there are People such as yourself with you own brand of Islam/Christianity slash whatever!. It is tough for the non Muslims to get the true message of Islam.
    By all means rewrite the title and call it bafs’s experiences in searching closeness to God according to his ideas, his concepts, his definition of spirituality and his experiences.
    Verse 9:31
    They (unconditionally) obeyed the rabbis and the monks and worshiped the Messiah, son of Mary, as they should have obeyed God. They were commanded to worship no one besides God who is the only God and who is too exalted to be considered equal to any idols.
  10. funky d says:
    until christians around the world wake up to the subversion of their faith by the talmudic supremacists then they will continue to support that VILE DISGUSTING DESPICABLE DEGENERATIVE RACIST USURPING TALMUDIST SUPREMACIST MURDEROUS PARASITIC TERRORIST HOLOCAUSTING REPTILLIAN ILLEGAL JEWISH MONSTROSITY OF A STATE as if it is their own. they need to do their research on what the parasites believe about god, prophet jesus, christians in general. also they need to learn about how close islam and true christian message of prophet jesus really are.
  11. gator. says:
    I think all relligions were created to divide the human race,there will never be unity among them.If one wishes to find GOD, or become close to GOD, look within,because to me GOD is my SOUL, your real self, regardless of which faith or relgion you practise.
    Just my two bobs worth
  12. Ingrid B. says:
    I may not be entitled to an opinion on the subject of god and religeon, but what I am, or am not, what I believe, or not, is my business, and should not be of concern to others. This article though, made me realize that god, to each individual, is a projection of him, or her self, and the image of each individual`s god, is decided by the thoughts, beliefs, and actions of the individual, and is,therefore,a personal thing..
  13. Shalom/Salaam/Peace to all!
    MashaAllah!!! May Allah Bless the Author of it. Amiin…
    BTW search my name, or visit my page at http://www.scribd.com where I posted this there, in my NEWEST Challenge to OBAMA LIAR on the death of OBL.
    Regrad to all.
  14. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:
    Mukhtar Khan says:
    May 8, 2011 at 10:12 pm
    “Very impressive piece! Well written brother Basheer.”
    I start liking being appreciated for my efforts! It’s been so long.
    First, let me thank you for your contribution, and then try and respond to it.
    SOME PROVABLE FACTS
    1. The Hindus say they are right.
    2. The Jews say they are right.
    3. The Christians say they are right
    4. The Buddhists normally do not say anything except when the Dalai Lama was corrupted when he came to the West.
    5. The Muslims say they are right.
    6. The Atheists say they are right.
    7. The powerful say they are right.
    8. The Agnostics simply say they don’t know.
    Add those seven together and you will see that it covers almost the entire of humanity. But, guess who among the above is and can easily be proven to be right (not righteous or virtuous though) without the shadow of a doubt? THE POWERFUL!
    If we do not accept this provable fact (truth), then all that we say about anything else cannot and will not be entirely true.
    “ It’s for no lack of wisdom that the Quran says about the Christians in Sura 5:82: “And you will find the nearest of them in affection to those who believe (to be) those who say: ‘We are Christians. That is because there are among them priests and monks, and because they are not proud”. That clearly means that Muslims and Christians have some common spiritual tendencies, among them their inclination towards mysticism and their lack of worldly desires as opposed to Jewish traditions which gives importance to worldly affairs such as having strong financial, political and social affiliations, not necessarily for good reasons but mainly for the purpose of abuse and subjugation of others.”
    YES, I wholeheartedly agree, but Muslims too are affected with the same disease as the other groups mentioned above, excluding the one who wields all the power on all the others. Muslims tend to pick and choose. But, if they could understand that history is made up not only of 1400 years and knowledge and wisdom are not restricted to that short period exclusively! When Islam tells us that there were other creations before us and there will be others after us, most Muslims do not understand what this means and do not even want to investigate. The logic (and fairness) is to regard all humanity as really one except those in power and their armies of collaborators and accomplices in crime, who behave as if they were not of us, but of some kind of cold blooded beasts out only to lie, cheat, steal, kill and own everything, and starve and enslave the rest of humanity.
    Following that logic, we should start regarding the Christians as members of the same extended family where rotten elements always exist, but not condemn all of them. Instead of saying we (Muslims) are 1,5 billion, why not say, WE, Christians and Muslims are 2,5 or even 3 billion of humanity? With this logic in mind, we will soon see ourselves embracing the whole of humanity, the good part of it and I insist on this good part because we cannot and must not embrace those who are killing innocent people, stealing their lands and wealth, destroying their religion and culture, perverting their morals, oppressing them and treating them as slaves.
    I would not say Christianity is “badly bruised” because I saw it agonising and this is sad, but you are right to say that “Recovery and a comeback is beyond question”. Because Christianity was already badly damaged (corrupted), Islam came to put things right, and Protestants came to reform it. But, although Islam has not changed one iota for more than 1400 years, the Muslims have become decadent and have allowed the enemy to take over their lives, including their religion that they are trying in vain to destroy.
    YES, secularism is not only another word for Atheism, but also for NOGODISM, ANTIGODISM, but too few of us understand this Jewish or Church trick being played on the believers. In France, they call it “laïcité”, the separation of the Catholic Church from the French Godless state, which they have for decades been applying against everything Islamic and Muslim. Their brand of secularism has developed into a racist and fanatical intolerant religion against Arabs, Muslims and Islam. I see this disease has also spread to America and other Western countries.
    “Concessions after concessions, defeats after defeats, apologies after apologies, scandals after scandals, reformations after reformations. Political correctness has left Christianity devoid of any originality and essence. Just costumes and rituals. No forceful theology and a prescribed way of life.” (Mukhtar)
    This is the conclusion of my analysis too.
    Unfortunately, we cannot even rely on the Greek Orthodox people as they too have recently been very deeply contaminated with Communism and now with Capitalism. What is shown to us that is left of Christianity is Zionist ‘Christianity’ and crazy televangelism or te Vatican mixing freely with Israelis!
    “Maybe a hundred years ago I would have criticized you brother Basheer for not adhering strictly to a tradition (as I am still not sure if you are a Muslim or not) and allowing too much personal opinion in Divine matters – that is once its Divinity is established- but in these times a person of your belief is coolness to my eyes and a company more worthy than most religious people, because you seem to understand that external piety without internal love and mercy is like a house without inhabitants, not worth living in.”
    One thing I know for sure about myself. I am one of the most “fanatical” and “fundamentalist” Muslims on planet earth, but this is a well calculated one! If my arguments are false they will all fall one by one, but I do not think so.
    As a matter of fact, I rarely write about my personal “opinion”, but more about my personal experience. However, you are right that it is not quite clear if I am a Muslim or not, the way a mainstream Muslim thinks of himself or herself, but Islam says GOD knows your intention and your heart, and there is only GOD and Islam in my mind, heart and everyday action, but of a universal kind, not sectarian. When I am with a domestic puppy or kitten or with a cub in the wild or with our little ones (the human angels), I can see the majesty of GOD and the necessity of love, asking nothing in return expect respect.
    As far as Divine matters are concerned, you will always find people of “God” telling you your God is not GOD! Many Christian preachers have studied Islam and embraced that religion because of its universality and timelessness not ever in need of any reformation. Islam leads and is not led. Islam teaches and is not taught to! Muslims can never “integrate” or “assimilate” Islam into any system other than Islamic. This is its strength. Christianity lost its strength because it never stopped compromising!
    Muslims tend to regard their best and most respected scholars of old as eternally infallible. There lies their big mistake. The faith of those scholars was great, but they were not exposed to the kind of universal knowledge that we have at our disposal today. The modern Muslims translate an Arabic term into English and claim it to be from GOD Himself! But, I found out so many mistakes in their translations the Holy Book, in its interpretation, and even in its application in everyday life. Although Muslims never managed to corrupt Islam, they distorted its application in order to please the people in power as the Christians do. They even joined systems of KUFR while still claiming to be Muslims. I read in the Holy Qur’ân that GOD accepts only one Party, the Party of GOD, yet I see Muslim Liberals, secularists, Democrats, Labour, Republicans, Modernists, Progressists, Socialists and so on.
    Muslim nations are slave members of the UN dictatorship; this is Kufr. Muslims go to the ballot box and vote for a system of Kufr! They waste their money in buying “newspapers”, watching all kinds of films produced by the Jews and others, buying Jewish pharmaceuticals, paying for television licences, crazy about fashion clothes and hair cuts, attending Masjid with all kinds of logos that distract other worshippers, some even smoke or sell tobacco, others sell pork and alcohol (while wearing the hijaab) in Jewish supermarkets, drink aspartame, take vaccines, put mercury in their teeth, use microwaves and fluoride, attend public schools (that dehumanise them), and on and on. Yet, they come to us trying to preach their brand of Islam.
    One thing I always hear Masjid leaders say here in London: This is the “House of God; we do not discuss politics here!” But, one day I caught Harry Cohen, the Jewish Member of Parliament who was invited by the same Mosque leaders into the Masjid and allowed to address the Muslims asking them to vote for Tony Blair for a second term in government. Tony Blair is a known liar and mass murderer, a Muslim hater and a Knight of Malta working for the Vatican Corporation, but thousands of Muslims and their families voted for him.
    Another day, I was so disappointed and in a pretty bad spiritual mood that during Friday Congregational Salaat, the caretaker of the mosque saw me praying outside the Mosque, right on the pavement, and invited me in. I refused and Muslims passing by thought I must be some kind of mad guy! But, none of those coming in and out of the Mosque, the so-called worshippers of God, came to me to ask me what the matter was! They behave like literal zombies and do you expect me to join them?
    Those Muslims are out of their mind because Islam was political since day one, but they learned from the enemy that they should separate religion from politics and so their Diin is no more Islam, but Diin as Shaytaan although they keep calling it Islam! BELIEVE IN ISLAM, BUT VOTE FOR SHAYTAAN! But, yet they are doing a great job in providing to our children the opportunity to learn Arabic and the Qur’ân. So, they are not all bad!
    I sincerely hope and pray that you do not loose the “coolness” to your eyes while or after reading this response. Is there any better way of ending a communication (dialogue) between two believers who are not blind repeaters? When hearts and souls meet all good religions are one and GOD is One and the world becomes a Paradise!
    Thank you again.
    “From God we come and to God we shall return”
    Barak Allah Fik
    Basheer Ahmad
  15. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:
    gator. says:
    May 9, 2011 at 3:56 am
    “I think all relligions were created to divide the human race, …”
    You will never be able to prove this one!
    “… look within, because to me GOD is my SOUL, your real self …”
    So, your soul is GOD. Interesting! Which “self”, the lower or the higher?
    Just put ten questions about how humans should behave and see if your “SOUL” provides you with the right answers.
    For example
    “O Soul, can I marry my mother when my father dies?” Nimrod married his mother Semiramis after his father died.
    And, let us know what your “soul” told you! By the way, how much did you find when you “looked within”? Share it with us, please!
    Thanks.
    BAFS
  16. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:
    MJ says:
    May 9, 2011 at 12:10 am
    “The difference between us Bafs is that you are calling to yourself and your experiences…”
    Is this true that I am CALLING TO myself and to my experiences? Please, can you quote where you read I was “calling to myself and my experiences”, or is it just YOUR interpretation?
    “Then there are People such as yourself with you own brand of Islam/Christianity slash whatever!. It is tough for the non Muslims to get the true message of Islam.”
    My own brand of Islam/Christianity slash whatever? That’s wicked! Why don’t you quote your God or your Islam to refute me intelligently instead of peddling sectarian beliefs?
    “By all means rewrite the title and call it bafs’s experiences in searching closeness to God according to his ideas, his concepts, his definition of spirituality and his experiences.”
    So, you do not like the title, but you did not provide any argumjent why it should be otherwise, that is, to your liking and understanding! Why did you not choose between the other two titles I provided?
    MY ideas, MY concepts, MY definitions …?
    Love, where did you get all these niceties about me? Where did you see them?
    I asked you once to tell (or remind) me whether you were a woman or not because I have great difficulty writing to initials, unless you want me (or others) to show disrespect to you!
    Do not brag too much about your Islam because you are just REPEATING what others have said, and I am really wasting my time giving you too much attention. You will forgive me if I do not respond here to your further sectarian preaching and unsubstantiated accusations.
    It is obvious that things of the heart, the spirit and the soul and universal knowledge do not seem to interest you at all, and open mindedness is not one of your qualities.
    BAFS
  17. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:
    funky d says:
    May 9, 2011 at 1:56 am
    “… also they need to learn about how close Islam and true Christian message of prophet Jesus really are.”
    Obviously, they must first learn about it, but it is more about what some do about the Message after learning about it.
    Hey, “funky d”, can’t you find another tomato sauce to add to your comments rather than this same old outdated one:
    “…VILE DISGUSTING DESPICABLE DEGENERATIVE RACIST USURPING TALMUDIST SUPREMACIST MURDEROUS PARASITIC TERRORIST HOLOCAUSTING REPTILLIAN ILLEGAL JEWISH MONSTROSITY OF A STATE…”
    Here in London, they sell a “pound a ball” of fresh vegetables! Well, it is not fresh, really, not even natural, but some can afford only this!
    But, you are right. Thanks.
    BAFS
  18. MJ says:
    Just for the record bafs. The religion with God is Islam. It is not subject to compromise, since He created the whole thing.
    “This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favor upon you, and have chosen for you Islâm as your religion” [al-Maa’idah 5:3]
    “And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:85].
    This is not sectarianism. This is the truth, take it or be averse to it is is your choice. Your aversion does not diminish His kingdom one iota.
    In the end there will be 2 camps, due to the Armageddon that they wish to bring about. One with hypocrisy and no faith and one with faith and no hypocrisy and the ostriches can no longer hide. The ostrich will die in this state of events.
    Some decent people will come to this understanding now and others after the Prophet Jesus/ Isa’s second coming Perhaps.
    Well that’s it, I no longer wish to have my character sacrificed at the alter of your pride.
    I too will withdraw from this discussion.
  19. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:
    Ingrid B. says:
    May 9, 2011 at 7:57 am
    “I may not be entitled to an opinion on the subject of god and religion,…”
    Why not? Everybody is entitled to an opinion. Even my dog and the entire universe are voicing their opinions loud and clear, every day, every hour, every minute and for millenia, but too few among us have the faculty to perceive the voices from the cosmos and from nature.
    “… and is,therefore,a personal thing …” Ingrid B.
    Yes, as long as it does not harm to self or to others. But, people who reflect know that there is a Supreme Force out there and that we are not alone and that we did not appear on this planet by mere chance! If you are intested, I will post here “Seven Reasons why a Scientist believes in GOD, by the scientist himself, a former President of the New York Academy of Science.
    Thank you.
    Basheer
  20. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:
    Joe Jussac, Jr. (Tjoaginsing) says:
    May 9, 2011 at 8:19 am
    “MashaAllah!!! May Allah Bless the Author of it. Amiin…”
    Are yu speaking of “The passion of Joan of Arc”?
    Thank you.
    Basheer
  21. gator. says:
    B.A fremaux. Soomally.Who do you think you are to question my personal experiense of life.
    You think you know everything don’t ya,Mr. Big Shot know all,why don’t ya start your own blog,if you think you know it all,no nothing.
    All you know is ALIANS and LIZARDS,like ya famous shill friends.
    You don’t even know who you are,one minute your a Christian than your a Muslim than Hindu ,Buddhist,atheist,but if you are a Muslim as ya say,than you give them a bad name.
    Your a sick man Soomally, for saying my SOUL should marry my mother when my father dies.Just like ya said, all white people prostitute their daughters to everyone, even to dogs,donkeys and apes.But a black man can’t be a racist, can he,only whites are racists.
  22. gator. says:
    Speaking about SOULS MR big shot with the big important name B.A.Fremaux- Soomally.
    Thats one thing you haven’t got,so therefore your life on this planet and the here after,will end in the grave,because its the SOUL that will evolve.
  23. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:
    gator. says:
    May 10, 2011 at 12:39 am
    “B.A fremaux. Soomally.Who do you think you are to question my personal experiense of life.”
    You give yourself the right to make statements that you cannot prove. You know my views about pseudonyms, yet I have been charitable by not ignoring your contributions. Not only you do not have a proper name, but keep on using only the reptilian part of your brain. So, let me end your calvary by keeping my generosity and precious time for others who deserve it more.
    This is yet another statement that you made (quoted above) that you cannot prove because I never questioned your experience unless we did not live on the same planet.
    “I think all relligions were created to divide the human race, …” (YOUR statement, not mine!)
    Unless you cannot read English, you said it was just a thought of yours, not your experience, and I challenged you to prove it because it can easily be proven (by people of experience and knowledge) that religions were not “created to divide the human race”, but to SAVE it from its passions, but you chose to run away from any intelligent discourse.
    “Your a sick man Soomally, for saying my SOUL should marry my mother when my father dies.”
    “… to me GOD is my SOUL, your real self, regardless of which faith or relgion you practise.”
    These are your statements for all to see, not mine. If you insist that I wrote “your soul should marry your mother when your father dies”, then QUOTE ME! If you cannot, obviously you cannot, then you better seek professional help!
    If GOD is your soul as YOU say, I simply asked you to question your soul (your God) about the above mentioned and provide us with your answer, that is, your “personal experience” on the matter, but visibly you cannot even read English properly. You better read again my response to your commentary, and if you cannot, ask help from somebody who can, and see what a fool you made of yourself.
    Before I retired, I used to charge £20-£30 an hour as my consultation fees. I understand it is more expensive, now, but here I work for free, and your time is up. You have gone beyond the limit!
    So, goodbye, Sir/Madam, and good luck with your thoughts and your dumb “soul God” that cannot be questioned when you reserve the right to make unsubstantiated accusations against other peoples’ religions and insinuating that yours is better! Other GODS speak through what is called “Holy Scriptures”, and it is much easier to obtain answers from them because we have the written record.
    BAFS
    N.B. This post is not meant to be controversial (disputatious) but only a sharing of personal experience.
  24. funky d says:
    no bafs i don’t. not keen on tomato sauce, i prefer chilli sauce, or even mint chutney.
    as for it being outdated, it never will be in my opinion. if you can think of a way to encapsulate that despicable state in a few words without writing its name (something i am doing as well as doing my best not to say the actual word) then by all means let me know, as it would save me the effort of having to copy and paste it in all my comments. seeing as how they are the root of all evil on this planet it is hard not to comment on events without mentioning them.
  25. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:
    THE PAGAN ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH CORPORATION (whose finances are in the hands of the Rothschilds since 1827 (?) – See iamthewitness.com) did not only kill Christian mysticism, but even Christian faith by its tyranny, extreme sadism and perversion throughout the ages.
    Joan was tortured, lied to and cheated by the Catholic “fathers” of the Synagogue of Satan! And to further fool the Catholic sheep, Martyr Joan was canonised, made into a Catholic Saint which made the Vatican even wealthier! Whenever the Yarmulke wearing Pope needs more money or sees the sheep going away from the faith, he canonises a Saintly person!
    This was not a trial, but a charade like it happens in all English Freemasonic Courts of Maritime Law where the Judges work for the powerful bankers and the Corporations and where the lawyer’s priority lies with the Court and not with their “clients”. The English Court is a business! The American people should see to it that all its Freemasonic Courts of Satanic Law be abolished and be replaced by Republican Seats of Justice for all and based only on the Shari’a (the Law of God).
    When we see what the “Church” (a term borrowed from the name of an ancient Goddess, so it seems, and which is not the Congregation of Christ) can do to her own, think of what she is capable of doing to others! Who can still say he or she is still a Roman Catholic when that Church has betrayed the Catholic Dogma and recognised Israel on Earth and has allowed the descendants of Jesus Christ to be exterminated, expelled from their homes, starved, enslaved in the world’s greatest open Concentration Camp, imprisoned, tortured, persecuted and humiliated on a daily basis?
    Ask yourselves why notorious mass murderer Tony Blair said to be or suspected of being a Knight of Malta (and Bush as a Knight of Eulogia) has lately converted to Catholicism and joined the Vatican, and why his sister-in-law has embraced Islam!
    I thank everybody for their contributions, but, please, do not treat this video clip on Saint Joan as mere entertainment. I am offering you the best of myself here, including my heart and soul. Thank you.
    Basheer Ahmad
    Monday 10th May 2011
    P.S. I did not mean to offend anybody.
  26. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:
    funky d says:
    May 10, 2011 at 2:35 am
    “no bafs i don’t. not keen on tomato sauce, i prefer chilli sauce, or even mint chutney.”
    I love chilli sauce, but even that too much is not good for my stomach.
    However, you are right about it not being outdated, I think (I may be wrong) it just need some clean (or new) clothes every now and then, a kind of new salad dressing.
    Would you believe that everywhere I turn in this bloody world, it is always the Jew, the Jew, the Jew – always about them and their criminal behaviour and perverted ways!
    With them in control, the US “reserves the right” to bomb any country they like, whenever they like, meaning mainly Muslim countries (for the time being)! But, we are all on the list and our turn will come if we let them.
    Thanks
    BAFS
  27. gator. says:
    Listen Mr BIG SHOT SOOMALLY,I don’t have to prove jack shit to you, or any body for that matter. ok mr know it all.Your just a sick perverted clown that knows all about prostitutes,and how to hate white people.As far as religion goes, you just believe all the myths, fables and lies that were written thousands of years ago by the same people writing them today. YOU PROVE TO ALL OF US THAT WHAT YOU SAY IS TRUE.
    I wouldn’t give ya the time of day never mind 20 or 30 pounds,got that MR BIG SHOT KNOW ALL SOOMALLY.

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