MIKE KING AND BAFS ON THE USS LIBERTY MILITARY SPY SHIP OF JUNE 1967

WAR ON ISLAM, MUSLIMS, ARABS, AND FREEDOM GLOBALLY!  AND OPERATION CYANIDE.

IN JUNE 1967, TO ME IT WAS QUESTION OF THE TREACHEROUS AND FULLY DOCUMENTED US-ISRAELI JOINT ATTACKS ON THE ARABS FOR THE PURPOSE OF US-ISRAELI EXPANSION AND PERMANENT OCCUPATION OF EGYPT AND THE ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST - THEIR NEW HIROSHIMA-NAGASAKI VICTIMS - ALL THIS WITH COMPLETE WESTERN, SOVIET (ALMOST), SAUDI, AND UN COMPLICITY - AND NOT OF THE USS LIBERTY FAILED JOINT US-ISRAELI ATTACKS AND RITUAL HUMAN SACRIFICE! 
BAFS 
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Jim Fetzer & Ole Dammegard - Mass Illusions: The Moon Landing, The Holocaust & The Beatles & Doubles

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Jim Fetzer, a former Marine Corps officer, is McKnight Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota Duluth. He has published widely on the theoretical foundations of scientific knowledge, computer science, artificial intelligence, cognitive science and evolution and mentality. 

Ole Dammegård is an author, international speaker, investigator, former journalist, artist who is behind the website Light On Conspiracies. Ole and Jim join us to speak about their new book collaboration called, "And I suppose we didn't go to the Moon, either?" It is a collection of essays on government lies that is intended to challenge some of our most cherished and deeply held beliefs. Our conversation begins with the first subject of the book – the Apollo 11 Moon landing. Jim takes us through a few of the vast number of anomalies in the 5,000+ photographs in existence, and he talks about the problem with the Van Allen radiation belt, which continues to be a giant obstacle for space travel today. Ole gives his interpretation of why so many connections exist amongst various conspiracies within the government, and we discuss the backlash that is felt by researchers who decide to look into some of the most preposterous events in history. Then, we delve into the holocaust, anti-Semitism, hate speech, and the big media promotErs of disinformation, as well as the deterioration of news coverage that is pushing the mainstream to alternative sources. In the members’ segment, we start with the fascinating tale of the Beatles and their golden boy, Paul McCartney. Jim relates how the British invasion of pop music in the US sparked a revival of spirit that was clung to by the grief-stricken youth who were reeling from the shocking assassination of JFK. We get into the details of the extreme operation that was used to replace the original Paul, who is said to have died in a car accident in 1966. Jim points to the numerous signs that suggest the Beatles placed clues about the death in their album artwork, lyrics, and even in the way they referred to Paul. Then, we look into the assassination of Saddam Hussein’s double and the real death of this beloved boogeyman. We also touch on the fakery surrounding Osama Bin Laden’s death and the disproportionately influential AIPAC lobby power that has been granted as a result of the sham. At the end, Jim gives us a rundown of the latest insane operation that has even the mainstream buzzing – Jade Helm. We chew over the different components of this military maneuver of which we can apply deductive reasoning, and we speculate on what could be in store for us if indeed we are on the road to Martial Law.

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JUNE 8, 1967: THE USS LIBERTY MASSACRE By Mike King

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The USS Liberty

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EDITORIAL BY

This day in history marks the 49th anniversary of what was intended to be the false-flag sinking of the USS Liberty by the psycho state of Israel. But unlike this past Monday's "D-Day" anniversary, don't expect Sulzberger's Slimes to recall this tragic event with any of those solemn and cheesy platitudes vomited out for those "remembrances" which serve Globalist-Zionist interests. No, that wouldn't be kosher. Leave it to the Anti-New York Times to publish a refresher course, both as a commemoration and also as a critical lesson in vigilance -- given the very dangerous situations now brewing in the South China Sea and Eastern Europe.

The case for the premeditated Israeli treachery of 1967 is not "conspiracy theory" TM --- It is a FACT!

During the "6-Day War", Israel, hoping to put the blame on Egypt, attacked the American non-combat surveillance ship with aircraft and torpedo boats, killing 34 sailors and wounding 171 more. The dastardly  attack in international waters was preceded by as much as 10 hours of close surveillance. Israeli vultures had circled Liberty on many different occasions before attacking. Radio operators in Spain, Germany, Lebanon and aboard Liberty itself all heard the pilots report back to their headquarters that this was an American ship. Then came the vicious attack, which was finally cut short when it was thought that American help was on its way. Because Liberty failed to sink, the Israeli government had to confess its dirty deed -- concocting an elaborate story of "mistaken identity."

U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson, who, in 1963, had been installed in his position due to an unexpected job opening created for him by the usual suspects, was quick -- very quick -- to accept the Israeli apology and close the case. The cover-up was greatly facilitated by an almost total media blackout of the event. But let there be no doubt: the attack on the Liberty was a deliberate, coordinated and sustained effort, executed in broad daylight, with the U.S. flag flying prominently, involving air, sea, commando forces and headquarters.

The murder of JFK removed a U.S. President who was not afraid of Israel and installed one of the nastiest pro-Zionist traitors in American history.

The Israeli excuse remains to this day a disgusting fabrication that is entirely contradicted by the eyewitness testimonies of the survivors. Even key American leaders called the attack deliberate as have eyewitness participants who later spoke from the Israeli side! Yes, that's right. In 1982, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and also spoke with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role in the attack. According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately and informed his headquarters. He was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack. After refusing his orders, he was arrested upon his return to the base.

Later, a dual-citizen Israeli major told survivors that he was in the war room where he heard that pilot's radio report, and that everyone in the room knew that they were attacking an American ship. He later recanted the statement after he receiving some "persuasive" phone calls from Israel.

As confirmed by then-U.S. The Israeli pilot's protests also were heard by radio monitors in the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon. Then-U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon, Dwight Porter, confirmed this. Porter told his story to syndicated columnists Rowland Evans and Robert Novak and offered to submit to further questioning by authorities. Unfortunately, no one in the Zionist-owned U.S. government had any interest in hearing these accounts of Israeli treachery.

Congressman McCloskey and journalists Evans & Novak tried to generate some interest in the Liberty cover-up. The Piranha Press was not interested.

Former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Thomas Moorer insisted:

"I can never accept the claim that this was a mistaken attack. --- Israel attempted to prevent the Liberty's radio operators from sending a call for help by jamming American emergency radio channels.[And that] Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned lifeboats at close range that had been lowered to rescue the most-seriously wounded." 

Former Secretary of State Dean Rusk was equally outspoken, calling the attack deliberate in press and radio interviews. This belief was shared by top leaders in the CIA, NSA, National Security Council, and presidential advisers such as Clark Clifford, Lucius Battle and Joseph Califano.

Yet Israel and its wholly-owned defenders continue to claim that the attack was a "tragic accident" in which Israel mistook a state-of-the-art electronic surveillance vessel for a rusted-out 40-year-old Egyptian "horse transport." That tall tale is almost as "funny" as the one about the sickly Saudi Arabian caveman and his merry band of box-cutter-wielding "jihadists" turning three massive New York City skyscrapers into dust and aerosol with just two "hijacked" airplanes. Ha ha. The joke, as always, is on you Boobus Americanus.

Admiral Thomas Moorer*, Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff under President Nixon 

"I have never believed that the attack on the USS Liberty was a case of mistaken identity. What is so chilling and cold-blooded, of course, is that they [the Israelis] could kill as many Americans as they did in confidence that Washington would cooperate in quelling any public outcry. I have to conclude that it was Israel's intent to sink the Liberty and leave as few survivors as possible."

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* Cannot be that stupid; most probably a LIAR covering up the real truth too! (BAFS)

  Boobus Americanus 1: The New York Times has an interesting history section called 'On This Day'. Did you know that Tony Blair was elected to a 2nd term as British Prime Minister on June 8th, 2001. Today is also the birthday of famed architect Frank Lloyd Wright. (here)

Boobus Americanus 2: It doesn't sound like June 8th is really all that memorable of a date in history.

Boobus Americanus 1: Nope. Not like June 6, D-Day was.

  

 "Ho hum.. 37 American sailors murdered in cold blood. No big deal. Flush it down the Slimes memory hole."

(Actually, there was never even a memory to flush in the first place. The Slimes never touched the story until the 1980's, and that was only to say it was an "accident!")

SECTION DEDICATED TO BAFS' CONCLUSIONS

 

My son Olyeg

However, after I returned to Mauritius from the USSR, the British prison, and my deportation to Paris in January 1968, I wrote some stupidity (knowing very little and writing a lot!) in a local newspaper about that event, as far as I can remember!  The fact that I was then only 23 year old donkey is no excuse. 

I wrote on Mark Glenn's "The Ugly Truth" and challenged Phil Tourney and Alan Hart about certain issues that bothered me.  Phil and Alan were stupid enough to refuse to respond to my perfectly legitimate questions except Phil TELLING me to read his book!  Although I wasted my time studying the matter, I learned quite a bit about the "truth tellers", including myself!

My contention was that the USS Liberty was a MILITARY SPY SHIP AT WAR and working for and reporting to both the USA and Israel, and against the Arabs, and that they were not innocent although not armed adequately for combat because they were meant to be under US MILITARY PROTECTION, which was not the case and a serious breach in military practice !  

Yet, NSA's MILITARY SPY PLANE was obviously flying high above during the entire attacks while US military officers were monitoring everything straight from the headquarters of the Israeli Military!  Where is this documented?

1. Was it not a Soviet war ship that saved the USS Libery from being completely destroyed and sunk?
2. Was it not a Soviet warship that escorted the damaged USS Liberty to safety?
3. Did the USA and Israel not receive almost full Soviet complicity in this matter?
4.  What was the Soviet response when the Arabs complained to them for letting them down?
5. Why did Alan Hart refuse to tell us (or me) what really happened with the team of Western journalists already on the Sixth Fleet to "DOCUMENT THE EVENT" while he himself was dispatched from London to be ON THE ISRAELI SIDES AND ON THE GROUND WITH THE ISRAELI MILITARY?
6. How many Israelis, dual citizens, or Judaics were on the USS Liberty?
7. But, Zombies will never wake up; they are WALKING DEADS!

 (To be continued)

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Zaid Hamid, a leading Pakistani Defense analyst, journalist and television commentator, helped prevent Pakistan from joining Saudi Arabia’s quagmire war on Yemen. How? By simply telling the truth: that this war was a grave mistake on the part of the Saudis and anyone stupid enough to join them. Then one year ago (June 2015) he traveled to Mecca to perform Umruh, the lesser pilgrimage…and the Saudi authorities were waiting for him at the airport. Arrested, locked in a political prison with no legal process whatsoever, facing the daily possibility of arbitrary beheading, Zaid survived until, through what can only be termed a miracle, he was released in October. (Most of the 40,000 or so political prisoners and “disappeared” people in Saudi Arabia aren’t so lucky.)
In this interview we discuss Zaid’s experience in the Saudi dungeon; the impending fall of the House of Saud; the New World Order’s 4th generation warfare destabilization campaigns against such governments as Syria, Libya, Iraq, Venezuela, and Pakistan; the NWO’s use of ISIS, al-Qaeda and the so-called “Pakistani Taliban” as proxy mercenary armies; and much more.
Zaid Hamid is one of 26 expert contributors to Another French False Flag: Bloody Tracks from Paris to San Bernardino, essential reading for anyone who wants to understand the global false flag epidemic –whose latest manifestation in Orlando I just wrote about in “Orlando Nightclub Shooting: Yet Another False Flag?”



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B.A.Frémaux-Soormally

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June 13, 2016 at 4:27 am

Ramadan Mubarak!
Wa ‘alaykum salaam wa rahmatullahi ta’ala wa barakatuhu!
Zaid Hamid is quite unique, but he brags too much about “National Security” issues. He spoke on the Ugly Truth with Mark Glenn.
He is again bragging here about his stopping the army going into Yemen!
Pakistan nuclear capability is a farce!
Pakistan showed its incompetence in its stupid war against East Pakistan, now US-India Bangla Desh!
Zaid went to Umrah, WHY? Is he that stupid? Yes, he is! But, at least he came from that pseudo pilgrimage and told some truth about the Saudis!
Zaid is confirming what I have said all along for over half a century – that Saudia has no rule of law! Why? Because Saudia is just a Crypto-Jewish military terrorist entity like Israel, a fabrication of the West, mainly Britain and the USA.
Since my teenage I would have advocated a total ban on the Muslim Hajj! But, those Muslims are so fanatical that they are not open to reason!
It was during my teenager years, over fifty years ago, that I vowed never to set foot in OCCUPIED ARABIA!
Zaid would be DEAD if India really wanted him dead!
Why did the Saudis release Zaid will remain a mystery!
In one way I regard Zaid as a fool!
BAFS

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June 13, 2016 at 4:40 am

100,000 Pakistani lives gone?
Sounds like the Pakistanis, just like the Iraqis, got a taste of their own medicine they administered to East Pakistan and to Afghanistan! They joined Satan (the USA) to murder Afghanis just like the Iraqis had joined the US and France to murder Iranians!
BAFS

USS Liberty: Operation Cyanide: Russians to the rescue

Operation Cyanide: will it be turned into a movie in Russia?

Few people in America or Russia are aware of the crucial and heroic role played by Destroyer 626/4 of the Soviet Navy during the Six-Day War in June, 1967. The commander and crew of this ship guarded the American intelligence vessel GTR-4, better known as the USS Liberty, after the attack on it by the combined air and naval branches of the Israeli Defense Force. The Zionist attack was coordinated with elements of the US Navy, US intelligence and the White House.

The top-secret plan was known as Operation Cyanide and was intended to result in the sinking of the Liberty with all hands, to be blamed on Egypt and exploited to permit the bombing of Cairo and the entry of the United States into the war on Israel’s side. The Soviet Union’s relationships with Arab countries would have been damaged and perhaps cut, with America and Israel seizing control of all Mid-East oil production. Israel’s borders would have expanded from the Nile to the Euphrates Rivers.

For some reason, the attack failed to sink the Liberty, despite tons of explosives, rockets, cannon-fire, napalm and six torpedoes expended against the ship in attacks that went on for almost two hours. Nuclear-armed American bombers were launched against Cairo from a US aircraft carrier but were recalled when the Liberty managed to send a distress signal with a repaired radio and antenna. The operation had to be abandoned because it required absolute radio silence and the disappearance of the ship. The initial strike by IDF fighters destroyed all antennae, combined with jamming of all five secret radio frequencies.

The American president, Lyndon B. Johnson, was under the influence of several Zionist intelligence agents, namely Arthur and Mathilde Krim, Arthur Goldberg, the Rostow brothers, Abe Feinberg and others. He was the most important member of Operation Cyanide.

Destroyer 626/4 came to the aid of the Liberty in the aftermath of the attack and stuck by her until US forces were allowed to approach about seventeen hours later. It has been reported that the American submarine, USS Amberjack, was standing by to sink the Liberty and save the operation but the presence of 626/4 prevented this from happening.

This is the basic story that John B. Campbell, an experienced American script-writer prepared for filming. He tries now to find a producer and funds to film it in Russia. His original screenplay entitled CYANIDE has been translated into Russian by Aleksandr I. Mezentsev. Campbell wrote that the US/Israeli aggression against Russia and the Moslem peoples would be halted after millions of people around the world learn about the ruthless treachery of Operation Cyanide, described by the BBC’s Peter Hounam in his book by that name. Russian and American audiences will appreciate the heroism and élan of the Russian officers who came to Liberty’s rescue.

In addition, we believe that the strange and destructive relationship between America and Israel would be understood and generally denounced by Americans who are now unaware of what really happened. The disarming of this axis could only have a beneficial effect on international relations between America and the rest of the world, leading to a more humble US foreign policy. It is possible that the nature of the attack on the Liberty would help to explain the attack on the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, considering that the only people arrested that day by US police were Israelis, wrote Campbell and Mezentsev.

from shamireaders

 

Monday, July 17, 2017 (WITH A PLETHORA OF LIES AND DELIBERATELY MISLEADING STATEMENTS AND QUESTIONS !)

UPDATE on the Story about the USS Liberty being rescued by a Russian Destroyer - Has Russia's Official Memory Improved????

UPDATE on the Story about the USS Liberty

being rescued by a Russian Destroyer

I can't seem to get the mystery of the Russian Destroyer 626/4 of the Soviet Navy off my mind.  Following up on my earlier post of July 14, 2017, I did some further research this afternoon and came up with this link...which appears to debunk the testimony of Liberty survivor and crew member John Hrankowski.  Surely there are other survivors of the Liberty that could validate or invalidate the story.  The Hrankowski story, complete with ship number certainly rings more authentic to me than the subsequent stories.  

Russia likely doesn't want to validate the story because such an admission would support the theory that Russia was "listening in" to the American spy ship's communications with Israel and, as the Soviet Union was allied with Egypt at the time, would have alerted Egypt as to any war maneuvers that Israel was making.  Additionally, in 2002, when the story below was written, Russia was still trying to curry favour with the American government.  Today, the situation between the two countries being radically different, perhaps the "memory" of the Russian Officials has improved [sarc].  Lastly, I don't think RT would have televised a program "commemorating the event of the attack on the USS Liberty" and then lied about the involvement of a Russian Destroyer.  At any rate, the entire story below, as it pertains to the debunking of the  "Russian destroyer" element of the USS Liberty story, has a smell of disinformation...but even so is worth reading just as a baseline to what was going on in the Mediterranean in the "Hot summer of 1967".  Please read the following Pravda report and I will have more thoughts in comments to follow:

Hot summer of 1967: The Israeli attack on America and the 'Soviet destroyer.'

14.09.2002 | Source:

Pravda.Ru

Two months ago, PRAVDA.Ru published an interview with John Hrankowski, a survivor and crew member of the USS Liberty, who had been on board the American vessel on the tragic morning of June 8, 1967 when the Liberty was attacked by the Israeli air force.

Mr.Hrankowski mentioned a really interesting and important fact just in passing: “American ships arrived only in 16 hours after the attack. A Soviet ship offered help to us on that night. They said that they would stay just at the horizon and, if our ship began to sink, they would help us.”

This fact has drawn our special attention. Former officer of the US Navy and film producer Richard Thompson recently helped produce a film about the tragic June 8 event. Mr. Thompson recommended us to talk to Russian submariner Captain Nikolay Charkashin, who has been investigating the circumstances surrounding the Liberty tragedy during the past several years. What is more, a book by Nikolay Cherkashin, “Mysteries of Lost Warships,” was recently published. This is the result of his independent investigations of Russian submarines from Empress Maria to the Kursk.

A PRAVDA.Ru journalist met with Nikolay Cherkashin, and we offer the following interview to our readers. It was rather unexpected to hear Nikolay Cherkashin say that no Russian ship was close to the USS Liberty that night.

- What happened to the Liberty is an astonishing and unique fact, but Soviet sailors had no connection with it. However, according to Thompson’s version, two Soviet ships were allegedly in the area and offered help but the Americans refused. In my mind, this information isn’t true. No Soviet ships were in close vicinity during the attack. Moreover, the very fact of the attack against the USS Liberty was practically unknown to the Soviet people. Probably, only the Soviet defense minister, Chairman of the Soviet government Kosygin, and several top officials in the government knew about it, that’s all.

I wanted to find evidence among Russian sailors, but in vain. Headquarters Commander of the 5th operative squadron Admiral Platonov was the first to lead his squadron to the site on June 26; however, nothing is mentioned in his memoirs about Soviet sailors offering help to the Liberty. If that really happened, I think he would have mentioned it for sure. 

 

Who do you think spread that version?

- I myself would also like to know the answer to that question. Fleet Admiral Ivan Kapitanets, for example, mentions nothing at all about the June 8 events in his memoirs. In his book “War At Sea,” he wrote that he led Soviet ships to the western part of the Mediterranean Sea on June 1. “On June 4, we were ordered to put the ship in the state of a complete war alert within 12 hours. Probably, Moscow knew something just 24 hours before the tragic event. This time was required to check the ammunition. The Arab-Israeli 7-day war started on June 5. I received an order to travel to the Antikitir Strait, receive landing forces, and be ready to land them in the port of Ataki for the sake of protect Soviet people there. On June 7, we arrived to the Antikitir Strait.” And not a single word is said about the events on June 8, 1967. When I asked him about the USS Liberty and a Soviet ship, he said he had known nothing about the event; it was a revelation for him.

Who was the first to spread information about a Soviet ship that offered help to the USS Liberty?

- I think it was former Liberty officer Lieutenant James Ennes (Nikolay Cherkashin showed a translation of the book Assault on the Liberty by James H. Ennes). He describes in detail what happened with the crew during the Israeli attack, and he describes the event from different angles.

James Ennes:

“For one day and night when the ship was slowly moving northward, no other ships or planes could be seen. At midnight, the Liberty came across the 626/4 Soviet missile destroyer that signaled in English. The following information was exchanged by both ships:

626/4: Do you need help?

Liberty: No, thanks.

626/4: I will stay at the horizon and be ready to help if you need it.

The Soviet ship followed a parallel course at a distance of several miles for the next six hours. At dawn, the Liberty radar station discovered the American destroyers Massey and Davis. The Soviet destroyer turned eastward and joined the ships of the 6th fleet. Aircraft carriers were not far behind the destroyers, and wounded sailors from the Liberty were delivered by helicopters to the aircraft carrier, to its hospital. The Liberty continued its course to Malta, where, as the crew was told, the assault would be investigated by a Navy court.”

But the hull number was even mentioned!

- Yes, we know the number. The matter of the fact is it is still a secret to whom it belonged. The 626/4 destroyer wasn’t at that time in the eastern part of Mediterranean. I tried to find some veterans of the Soviet Navy who had been there in the summer of 1967, but in vain. Also, nothing is also mentioned in the archives.

Well, let’s go back to the attack on the Liberty. Could it have been a tragic accident when the US ship was mistakenly taken for an Egyptian cargo ship? Was it a deliberate attack? Provocation? What do you think about it?

- Last year, a Russian translation of Joseph Daichman’s “History of the Mossad” was published in Moscow. The author describes the tragedy in 1967 in detail. He admits that it was perfectly clear that the Liberty was an American ship and that the attack was committed to deprive the USA “of its eyes and ears,” of the opportunity to control the situation. Daichman says the attackers had the right to act so. The Israelis feared that the Liberty would report information about the course of the war: they wanted to keep it a secret that troops had been shifted to Syria and the Egyptian border wasn’t protected at all. The border was quite open for Egyptian soldiers to cross. Israel knew that American radio signals were intercepted by the Soviet Union, and the latter would certainly inform Egypt of the fact. That is why the Liberty was to be sunk to avoid leakage of important information. This is a very cynical version. I even couldn’t have thought that I would ever read it.

There is also one more opinion…

- Yes, another version is that Israeli wanted to provoke the USA and involve it in a war against Arab countries. This version is still out there. Mr. Thompson supports it as well. I have known him for ten years already; by the way, it was he who told me about the Liberty tragedy. Richard Thompson is a fair and very active man, and he is persistent with his struggle for his ideas. US top officials wanted to hush up the Liberty scandal, as it was really disgusting and dirty. What is more, that was an unprecedented act, the first attack against US ships since Pearl Harbor. And the attack was committed by those whom America supported so strongly. Right after the accident, the US Congress organized no investigations at all, which was mere nonsense at that time!

Do you think it is possible now to start a new investigation of the tragedy but on a higher level?

- If someone in the government is concerned, an investigation can be initiated. But currently the USA has no time for it; it is preoccupied with the war against terrorism. However, we can call the Liberty tragedy an act of terrorism as well. By the way, it seems to me that the 9/11 attacks at the WTC and Pentagon are very much like the tragedy with the USS Liberty. This also seems to have been a well weighted provocation. The USS Liberty was a very old ship that operated since WWII. Probably, that is why it was the Liberty that was sacrificed. Do you mean that America was ready for that kind of attack?

I think America knew. Even sailors anticipated the tragedy and felt depressed. When the ship stopped in Spain, a famous prophetess told the Liberty sailors that the ship wouldn’t return home. Richard Thompson has been investigating the Liberty tragedy for several years. As a result, he has arrived at the conclusion that the attack had been a well-planned action of the Israeli and American special services. The USA was up to its neck in a bloody war in Vietnam and wouldn’t get involved into a lingering Mideast conflict. That is why it rejected direct military support to Israel. However, there were quite enough hawks in America of that period who wanted to turn a regional war into a large-scale battle. Especially at the cost of an old ship built in 1945.

Which version do you prefer?

- Both versions don’t contradict each other. Both objects could be pursued at once, and two birds could be killed with one stone. Israel wanted to stop leakage of information and, at the same time, established a precedent for US troops to fight against Arabs. If the Americans landed, the Soviet troops would also have done the same, and a great stir would have started then.

The Soviet submarine K-172 under the command of Nikolay Shashkov armed with missiles and nuclear warheads was at the very same moment in the Bay of Sidre. The submarine received instructions to surface and deliver a blow against the Israeli coast if the Americans landed troops on Syrian shores. The submarine had eight nuclear missiles on board. However, as we know the Israeli coast means the whole sate of Israel stretched along the sea. Israel would have been completely destroyed if such blows were delivered by the Soviet submarine. I wrote about Nikolay Shashkov; the publication was called “The Man Who Was to Destroy Israel.” The publication produced a strong response from society. I received inquiries from the Israeli Embassy, and many journalists wanted just to see the man who was to liquidate the Israeli state. The K-172 crew had to operate under emergency conditions; the submariners nearly died of high concentration of mercury vapor in its compartments. Several people were poisoned with the vapor, suffered from hallucinations and giddiness, and no explanation could be found to it. Can you imagine what submariners suffering from hallucinations could have done with nuclear warheads? They were to have been immediately sent to hospitals. However, as the situation in the region was still tense, the Soviet Navy commander-in-chief asked the submariners if they would be able to stay in the area for several more weeks, and the submariners agreed. Even when doctors were sent to the submarine, they failed to find the cause of hallucinations and giddiness. Nobody even guessed that was mercury, and people spent two months in the compartments poisoned with mercury vapors.

Submariners from the Soviet B-31 submarine had to face an even harder situation. When the war began, the submarine was transferred from the Atlantic Ocean to the eastern part of Mediterranean Sea. A disastrous fire broke out somewhere in the Tunisian Strait; it took over 24 hours to extinguish the fire. Five master sergeants and sailors perished because of the fire. And, for the first time since WWII, perished sailors were buried at sea. Large-scale repairs were started on the submarine, and, after that, the submarine set off for the Bay of Sidre. Therefore, Soviet submariners experienced very difficult situations, and many of them fell indirect victims to that Mideast war. However, none of these submariners also heard about the Liberty. To tell the truth, it wasn’t a matter of their concern.

The USS Liberty is a bloody secret of the Cold War. Was there any Soviet destroyer at all, or it was just a myth? Captain Nikolay Cherkashin thinks that it is impossible to find a 100% answer to the question, as too much time has passed since the tragedy.

Sergey Stefanov PRAVDA.Ru

Translated by Maria Gousseva

Read the original in Russian: http://pravda.ru/main/2002/09/13/47015.html

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I think America knew. Even sailors anticipated the tragedy and felt depressed. When the ship stopped in Spain, a famous prophetess told the Liberty sailors that the ship wouldn’t return home. Richard Thompson has been investigating the Liberty tragedy for several years. As a result, he has arrived at the conclusion that the attack had been a well-planned action of the Israeli and American special services. The USA was up to its neck in a bloody war in Vietnam and wouldn’t get involved into a lingering Mideast conflict. That is why it rejected direct military support to Israel. However, there were quite enough hawks in America of that period who wanted to turn a regional war into a large-scale battle. Especially at the cost of an old ship built in 1945.

Which version do you prefer?

- Both versions don’t contradict each other. Both objects could be pursued at once, and two birds could be killed with one stone. Israel wanted to stop leakage of information and, at the same time, established a precedent for US troops to fight against Arabs. If the Americans landed, the Soviet troops would also have done the same, and a great stir would have started then.

The Soviet submarine K-172 under the command of Nikolay Shashkov armed with missiles and nuclear warheads was at the very same moment in the Bay of Sidre. The submarine received instructions to surface and deliver a blow against the Israeli coast if the Americans landed troops on Syrian shores. The submarine had eight nuclear missiles on board. However, as we know the Israeli coast means the whole sate of Israel stretched along the sea. Israel would have been completely destroyed if such blows were delivered by the Soviet submarine. I wrote about Nikolay Shashkov; the publication was called “The Man Who Was to Destroy Israel.” The publication produced a strong response from society. I received inquiries from the Israeli Embassy, and many journalists wanted just to see the man who was to liquidate the Israeli state. The K-172 crew had to operate under emergency conditions; the submariners nearly died of high concentration of mercury vapor in its compartments. Several people were poisoned with the vapor, suffered from hallucinations and giddiness, and no explanation could be found to it. Can you imagine what submariners suffering from hallucinations could have done with nuclear warheads? They were to have been immediately sent to hospitals. However, as the situation in the region was still tense, the Soviet Navy commander-in-chief asked the submariners if they would be able to stay in the area for several more weeks, and the submariners agreed. Even when doctors were sent to the submarine, they failed to find the cause of hallucinations and giddiness. Nobody even guessed that was mercury, and people spent two months in the compartments poisoned with mercury vapors.

Submariners from the Soviet B-31 submarine had to face an even harder situation. When the war began, the submarine was transferred from the Atlantic Ocean to the eastern part of Mediterranean Sea. A disastrous fire broke out somewhere in the Tunisian Strait; it took over 24 hours to extinguish the fire. Five master sergeants and sailors perished because of the fire. And, for the first time since WWII, perished sailors were buried at sea. Large-scale repairs were started on the submarine, and, after that, the submarine set off for the Bay of Sidre. Therefore, Soviet submariners experienced very difficult situations, and many of them fell indirect victims to that Mideast war. However, none of these submariners also heard about the Liberty. To tell the truth, it wasn’t a matter of their concern.

The USS Liberty is a bloody secret of the Cold War. Was there any Soviet destroyer at all, or it was just a myth? Captain Nikolay Cherkashin thinks that it is impossible to find a 100% answer to the question, as too much time has passed since the tragedy.

Sergey Stefanov PRAVDA.Ru

Translated by Maria Gousseva

Read the original in Russian: http://pravda.ru/main/2002/09/13/47015.html

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I would certainly like to read some more USS Liberty Survivors' accounts of what happened on June 8. 1967 before drawing any final conclusions about any Russian involvement in the attack on the Liberty by Israel.  My inclination, at this point in time, is to believe the testimony of USS Liberty Crew Member John Hrankowski. 

The Official US and Russian sources have so many reasons to lie about it.  Although Russia may be more inclined to tell the truth now than it was back in 2002.  Some intrepid investigative Russian reporter should ask Putin or one of his spokespersons at the next opportunity.  If any of my readers comes across any further information on this topic, please add it to the comments below and I would be most appreciative!

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Posted by greencrow at 6:39 PM